Tuesday, April 24, 2007

forsberg?

have i mentioned that you can never have to many centers?

in that vein , should the brewing brass try to bring in the oft injuryed p. forsberg. since he has had trouble staying on the multiple rosters he has represented for years now, he might be cheap. the redsox for a while were experts in bringing in aging or hurt pitchers and getting a useful season or two out of them. will the "new nhl" bring about teams getting high skilled talent at bargain basement prices as a dusk settles on a career?

that said what is the max money you would be willing (if anything), with a roll of the dice, to risk with this formerly sweet swede (nutraswede?)?

i would take him at 1-2 mil, plus some .5~1 mil in incentives (if he is eligible?) on a 1-2 yr deal (max 2 million a season).

what about you?

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11 Comments:

Blogger Darryl's Dugout View said...

Sign him for whatever it takes. However, if he moves it will likely be back to Colorado. Cheers, Darryl

12:28 PM, April 24, 2007  
Blogger Russ said...

I, for one, am tired of Bruins reclamation projects. Zhamnov? Chistov? Berard? Stevens? Iafrate?

Pass. Pick up some grit, draft smart (again), and play the K kids to season them for their long NHL futures.

1:24 PM, April 24, 2007  
Anonymous Doobie said...

Here are some other reclamations to add to that list in just the 2000's alone: Brian Leetch, Felix Potvin, Paul Coffey and Dave Andreychuk.

That being said, I don't consider Forsberg a reclamation project. I consider him a health project. He's damn good when he's healthy, but he's only played 70 or more games just five times in his twelve year career. Even more shocking, he spent four years playing in fewer than 50 games.

8:33 PM, April 24, 2007  
Blogger Russ said...

Doob's right, he is more a health issue than anything. But given the B's salary state (conservative estimates have them at $41M after re-signing RFAs with a $48M cap) I don't think it's worthwhile to drop that type of incentive-laden contract on a player like Forsberg when you've got youth that can potentially provide quality play.

If you come right down to it, I don't mind another so-so season IF, and ONLY IF, it's because the kids are getting regular shifts. Put Kalus, Kessel, Krejci, Lashoff, etc. out there every game for double digit shift counts. Let them acclimate, and show the fans that there's a solid plan in place to develop players. I'm tired of the "oh well we signed X player in hopes he can regain his form from 4 years ago" routine. Granted, Forsberg isn't quite in this category, but he's darn close.

BTW, IMHO, I don't count Potvin in that list. He was simply outplayed by a solid rookie in Raycroft. Granted, it appears that was the only good hockey Raycroft had in him, and I'm hoping Hannu doesn't meet that fate as well.

9:49 PM, April 24, 2007  
Anonymous Doobie said...

Yeah, but Potvin was at the end of his career. That season in the spoked B was his last one.

As for Forsberg, he's the kind of player you add to an already solid team...great enough to make them better but not a crippling factor when he inevitably goes down with an injury. You put him on, say, the eighth worse team in the league and all he does is make them average. And when he gets hurt, all that salary cap $$$ is sitting on the bench.

10:24 PM, April 24, 2007  
Anonymous jimmy said...

first off he is not eligible for incentives. 2nd off he would never sign for 1-2 million dollars a season. he will command atleast 5 million dollars from any team he signs with despite his injury problem.

4:02 PM, April 26, 2007  
Blogger Matt said...

I've thought of the same scenario, and all I can think is, it would be a waste of money. Yes he is skilled, but overrated. He is hurt to often period. If you sign Forsberg, why wouldn't you get a younger guy like Drury or someone less hurt. I'm not willing to risk 5+ million for 50 games and 60 points.

9:14 PM, April 26, 2007  
Anonymous Doobie said...

Well, one thing he *would* bring to the team is a matinée presence. With all due respect to Chara, I think that Forsberg jerseys would sell a hell lot more.

Maybe we could give him the #6 too...LOL

10:37 PM, April 26, 2007  
Blogger neb said...

im on record as saying drury is my number one free agent, that i would like to see signed.

"jimmy" -he can "command" anything he likes, but i think teams will be hesitant to pay 5 million too. and i personally would never give him close to 5 large. so, if the rest of the gm's feel like i do... he is going to need to settle for less than 5 maybe less than 4 or even 3.

so if he would sign for 1-2 million - and you cant get drury... i say why not. certainly would be an upgrade over mowers.

do i think this is likely? nope. but my quesion was what would you sign him for? what do you think he is worth? apparantly matt and jimmy think he is worth 5 million.... i think thats more than twice his value and would be nuts.

11:44 PM, April 26, 2007  
Blogger Russ said...

Forsberg was reportedly pursued after the lockout, and eschewed the B's. After 2 non-playoff seasons, why would he consider them now? Besides fat money, of course. Nashville's GM has been publically saying that he believes Forsberg is done due to his ankles. Factor all that in, and I say, don't waste your time. Just because the B's aren't going to have a shot with Drury doesn't mean you toss money at a name player just because. Promote the kids, stick with a system for more than a season, and develop players. This hasn't happened in Boston in way too long, and given the way amateur scouting has been, it's about stinking time that the kids get solid playing time and build around players that will be here for a while.

4:32 PM, April 27, 2007  
Anonymous Jimmy said...

Forsberg is worth 5 million if he can stay healthy. Will he? NO, and everyone knows that. I still believe a team will dish out 5 million for him despite the injury problems he has had his entire career.

4:41 PM, May 03, 2007  

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